Recently I was asked about the differences between preclinical years at UWI Mona and UWI St. Augustine. Answering the question necessitated research on my part which turned up undergraduate handbooks detailing the MBBS courses at both St. Augustine and Cave Hill. I used my own experience of the Mona courses because I figured they would be more accurate that any handbook I found online. (On that note, if anyone who has studied at Cave Hill or St. Augustine wants to share experiences please do). What follows is my ridiculously detailed comparison of the two campuses.
Brief background:
The University of the West Indies Mona campus was the first to offer medical education, as far back as 1948 when the university itself was founded. Since then, we’ve been at the forefront of medical education in the Caribbean (at least until US offshore medical schools began taking up residence).
In 1979, Trinidad’s St. Augustine campus opened what was to become the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex and launched its own medical school. Cave Hill’s medical programme received accreditation in 2006 and created its Faculty of Medical Sciences in 2008.
If we’re talking about years of experience churning out medical professionals, Mona leads with 66 followed by St. Augustine with 35 and Cave Hill brings up the rear with 8. But a good medical school is more that the sum of its years.
(I won’t be discussion Cave Hill’s courses here because they pretty much follow Mona’s system to the letter).
On its website, the St. Augustine Faculty of Medical Sciences boasts that it is the only Caribbean medical school to offer the problem based learning system, a modality that is actually occasionally employed by its counterparts at the Mona campus. We call it case based learning and it forms a significant part of our third year courses. But the Trinidadian med school does a lot of other things differently.
At first glance the structure of St. Augustine’s preclinical years is a little confusing to me. The end results of the courses are the same but Trinidad sets their classes up with an international sort of panache.
Pre-Clinical “Paraclinical” Courses
Course | Mona | St. Augustine |
Fundamentals of Disease and Treatment | Year 1 Sem 1 | Basic Paraclinical Sciences Year 1 Sem 1 |
Biochemistry/Biology | Cell Biology* Year 1 | Environment and Health Year 1 Sem 1 |
Molecular Medicine* | Environment and Health | |
Intro to Embryology & Histology | Year 1 Sem 1 | No similar course. |
Neurosciences | Neuroscience of the PNS | No similar course. |
Neuroscience of the CNS | Neuroscience and Behaviour | |
Basic Haematology | Year 1 Sem 2 | Basic Paraclinical Sciences Year 1 Sem 1 |
Health Care Concepts | Year 1 Sem 2 | Communication Skills and Healthcare Interactions* Year 2 Sem 1 |
Intro to Medical Practice 1 | Year 1 Sem 2 | The Health Professional and Client Care* Year 2 Sem 2 |
Pre-Clinical System Based Courses
Course | Mona | St. Augustine |
Locomotor System | Year 1 Sem 1 | Year 2 Sem 2 |
Cardiovascular System | Year 1 Sem 2 | Year 1 Sem 2 |
Respiratory System | Year 1 Sem 2 | Year 2 Sem 1 |
Digestive System | Year 2 Sem 1 | Year 1 Sem 2 |
Endocrine System | Year 2 Sem 1 | Year 2 Sem 2 |
Renal System | Year 2 Sem 2 | Year 1 Sem 2 |
Reproductive System | Year 2 Sem 2 | Year 2 Sem 2 |
*There was no description available for the course so I made my best guess as to the correlation.
UWI St. Augustine covers a lot of ground with their Basic Paraclinical Sciences, basically smushing together a range of courses that Mona keeps separate (Fundamentals of Disease and Treatment, Haematology, and a little bit of Health Care Concepts). Mona may offer its students more breadth and depth with the subjects by keeping them all separated.
They also have a three-tiered Applied Paraclinical Sciences course that pulls out the pathologies of the various clinical systems to study them as separate entities (with emphasis on diagnosis and management). This might help train clinical thinking by linking complicated pathophysiology with presentation and management, something us Mona students struggle with when we hit the wards.
Another difference is that Mona combines systems in a semester based on anatomical location, while St. Augustine combines them based on physiological function. For instance Mona pairs the cardiovascular system with respiratory while St. Augustine pairs it with renal.
Overall I think the difference lies not with the quality of the subject matter, but with a student’s individual learning preferences. The Mona and St. Augustine campuses present the same basic information in markedly different ways, letting the University of the West Indies appeal to at least two totally different kinds of student.
Ultimately the decision to study at a particular medical school depends on a lot more than academic offerings (which are usually fairly universal). Prospective undergrads have to think about tuition and travel costs, career opportunities and willingness or ability to leave home. But if you’re seriously taking into consideration how you will be taught (and not many people do but it is more important than you realize) then hopefully this analysis helps you make the right choice for you.
Of course the right choice would be to forego medical school altogether and save yourself.
As always, thank you for listening. And please, I love comments and the discussions they spark. Drop a line telling me if you agree or disagree with anything or if I helped you in any way.
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References:
St. Augustine MBBS Handbook
Cave Hill MBBS Handbook
Damn. You must really love whoever asked you to do this. Or love research. Or love writing. Or some combination of the aforementioned… Nice and detailed.
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For years I have been searching for some kind of critique or evaluation of UWI medical faculty at both mona and st. augustine. I’m so glad I found this. This gives me so much life
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Since you said case-based learning is used occasionally at Mona, would you say that they have an integrated teaching style in which you will have lectures first then case-based learning in small groups or is it solely case-based learning? What is a typical day like?
Thanks
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In first year? A typical day involves didactic lectures from 8 until about 1pm, followed by anatomy and histology labs. Case-based learning sessions usually happen near the end of a semester.
I can’t talk about how things were done in Mona (because I attended the western campus) but you should bear in mind that Mona’s ‘small groups’ are not very small.
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If you do prefer smaller classes, can you request to go to Mona Western vs. Mona before you matriculate?
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You totally can! At least, that was the policy when I had just started. It certainly can’t hurt to ask :)
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What is the average class size at Mona Western? What are some other things you liked that Mona western had to offer, than Mona didn’t? (pro/cons of both campuses)
Thx
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Average class size is 20-30 people, erring more on the side of 20. Pros and cons – that’s kind of extensive. I’ll share them in a future (soon-to-be-scheduled) post, so you can look out for that.
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Hey Robyn, also to clarify the above post, I was asking if the first two years are taught traditionally (only lectures) or with the integrative approach (lectures + PBL).Then the third year is mostly PBL. Is this how it works at Mona and Cave Hill?
thx
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Not sure about Cave Hill, but based on my internet research (not as reliable as a first hand account) they do things similarly to Mona. First two years are mostly didactic lectures, with a smattering of PBL sessions. The emphasis is mainly on lectures.
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sorry substitute the “PBL” with “CBL” above LOL…..ok time to go to sleep lol…sorry
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Okay, that would be great! I would really like to know b/c I applied for this August so would like to know which one is the best fit for me before I commit to one or the other.
Thanks again, I look forward to it :)
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Hi, I like the comparison (but I think you are a little biased towards Mona which is understandable since it is ‘your school’). I just wanted to add that it really doesn’t matter where you study because you end up on the same level after passing licensing exams anyway. I remember getting accepted to both Mona and St. Augustine and completely freaking out because I didn’t know which one to choose. I went with SA because well I lived in Trinidad, didn’t see the point in spending the extra money for the same outcome. Many of my friends went to Mona but we are evenly matched so far (we’re almost finished with 4th year). Also, St. Augustine (well Mt. hope) is really nice to study at. Only problem I’ve found so far is the size of classes are a little too much for my liking. First two years are fairly easy and it is more geared towards writing exams but after that it does follow a more clinical approach which I really like.
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Thanks so much for your input! I really appreciate the balance of opinions :)
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thank you Robyn. great info
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